Trinty And Truth

There is an interesting blog called Trinity And Truth that primarily reviews books on… you guessed it: The Trinity! The author comes from an egalitarian perspective on the man-woman debate and an eternal subodinationist view of the Son-Father debate. Here is a section from his review of Bruce Ware’s Father, Son, & Holy Spirit: Relationships, Roles, & Relevance:

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Indian Prime Minister Denounces Abortion of Females

From the New York Times:

“No nation, no society, no community can hold its head high and claim to be part of the civilized world if it condones the practice of discriminating against one half of humanity represented by women,” Mr. Singh said, giving an inaugural speech at a national conference dedicating to “saving the girl child,” which brought together politicians, doctors and advocates.

Webb v. Grudem: Primogeniture

This blog is interested in the ongoing discussion surrounding William Webb’s work in Slaves, Women & Homosexuals (IVP, 2001). After two largely positive reviews from The Journal of the Evangelical Theology in 2002, the book was severely criticized by Wayne Grudem in a 40-plus page article in the same journal entitled Should We Move Beyond the New Testament to a Better Ethic? Unlike the other two reviews, Grudem has little good to say about Webb’s work. In this post, and ones to come, we will take a look at the issues brought up by both authors. Today’s installment is on primogeniture.

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Humor — Ten Reasons Men Should Not Be Ordained To Ministry

10. A man’s place is in the army.

9. The pastoral duties of men who have children might distract them from the responsibility of being a parent.

8. The physique of men indicates that they are more suited to such tasks as chopping down trees and wrestling mountain lions. It would be “unnatural” for them to do ministerial tasks.

7. Man was created before woman, obviously as a prototype. Thus, they represent an experiment rather than the crowning achievement of creation.

6. Men are too emotional to be priests or pastors. Their conduct at football and basketball games demonstrates this.

5. Some men are handsome, and this will distract women worshipers.

4. Pastors need to nurture their congregations. But this is not a traditional male role. Throughout history, women have been recognized as not only more skilled than men at nurturing, but also more fervently attracted to it. This makes them the obvious choice for ordination.

3. Men are prone to violence. No really masculine man wants to settle disputes except by fighting about them. Thus they would be poor role models as well as dangerously unstable in positions of leadership.

2. The New Testament tells us that Jesus was betrayed by a man. His lack of faith and ensuing punishment remind us of the subordinated position that all men should take.

1. Men can still be involved in church activities, even without being ordained. They can sweep sidewalks, repair the church roof, and perhaps even lead the song service on Father’s Day. By confining themselves to such traditional male roles, they can still be vitally important in the life of the church.